Getting information about blue plaques on your mobile phone…

I was in London on Monday for a mini-conference on ‘mobile learning’ for the museums & archives sector. My colleague James Boardwell was presenting, but I was just there to learn what other people were doing.

One of the things that struck me was that when museums talk about ‘mobile learning’, what they tend to mean is using mobile devices (PDAs, mobile phones and proprietary media handsets) as a platform for engaging learners within the museum. Quite often this is in the form of what you might call (slightly rudely) ‘souped-up’ audio tours. Nothing wrong with these – we heard from some interesting projects that clearly had positive benefits, especially for formal educational school groups on class visits.

However, I couldn’t help but feel that this is missing a trick. The whole point of mobile technologies, surely, is their mobility. Mobile devices don’t need to be confined to the internal spaces of a museum. Mobile learning can be be about learning ‘out there’, away from the museum, in the visitor’s own time and space.

One of the few attempts at this I’ve seen came from the BBC Coast programme, where back during series 1, they made a collection of ‘audio walks’ available which you could download to your iPod and then listen to as you did their suggested walks. Not particularly interactive, but I always thought it was nice to see a TV programme encouraging people to switch off the TV and go out for a walk.

Another more recent example might be the annual RSPB Birdwatch event, where you’re encouraged to spend an hour in the garden on the allotted date (which was last weekend, sorry, you missed it) listing all the birds you can spot, and then submitting your results. It’s deliciously low-fi – you tally your results on a downloadable and printable score sheet and then submit them through the website later – but still ‘mobile’ in some sense, and certainly educational, even if the main aim is a bird survey.

With these in mind, I was thinking how this kind of ‘mobile learning’ might apply to the heritage sector, and as you might have guessed from the title, thought of blue plaques. You see them everywhere – especially when sat on the top deck of a double decker bus in London – and yet the plaques themselves never seem that revealing. You’ve often never heard of the person named, or perhaps only vaguely, and the only clue you’re given is something like “scientist and electrical engineer” (Sir Ambrose Fleming) or “landscape gardener” (Charles Bridgeman). I always want to know more. Who are these people, what’s the story about them, and why are they considered important enough for their home to be commemorated? I’d like to be able to find out all this, and to do so at the point at which I stumble across a plaque – which to me suggests something on a mobile platform.

If you follow me on Twitter, you’ll have seen me float this blue plaque idea last night. I asked if anyone knew where you could get geolocated data about blue plaques, and what a response I got!

Dan Karran’s sent me a spreadsheet containing blue plaque data, which he was sent some years ago from the guy who ran a website at blueplaque.com, which is no longer available. He and Owen Stephens also pointed towards blue.plaquemap.com which I rather like. It’s a full-screen Google Map with blue plaques in London marked with a push-pin, which are linked to a pop-up containing a photo of both the building and the plaque. Unfortunately, it’s not hugely mobile accessible, it’s limited to London and the information about who the people is pretty bare. Still, it’s a good start.

Meanwhile, I did some digging around to see who actually ‘owns’ the information about blue plaques, and gets to decide where they go. Turns out that it’s changed organisational hands a few times, from the Royal Society of Arts to the London County Council to the Greater London Council and now to English Heritage, who compiled this history. They have a list of blue plaques on their website. Unfortunately, it doesn’t seem to be that up-to-date, and there are no geo-coordinates, but it’s another useful source. Behind the scenes, I’ve also got Dan Zambonini asking them about the data (his company helped them update it), and for good measure I’ve sent in an FOI request too.

Unfortunately, the English Heritage operated plaque scheme is only part of the story, as other councils and organisations run similar schemes in other cities. Manchester, where I live, even has a colour coded scheme, with red and blue plaques as well as the familiar blue. Getting all this data together is going to be a bit of work – so let me know if you have any pointers for usable data sources. I suspect that any project will involve some proportion of user-contributed data. There’s already a decent Blue Plaques group on Flickr which has 894 photos, many of them geotagged.

My final thought was that people should be able to suggest new locations of historical interest. The English Heritage website allows you to suggest a new plaque, but this is a slow process, and there’s no reason why a mobile-enabled web service couldn’t let people jump the queue and locate places of historic significance without having to fix an enamel plate to the wall. As mia tweeted:

“guerrilla blue plaques with QR tags FTW! Why wait for one official history when you can have hundreds from community?”

I’m off on holiday tomorrow, so I won’t be doing any more on this for a week. I may have another play with the data at the Developer Happiness Days conference from 9-13 Feb (although I’m not sure how on-topic it’d be for a conference around Higher Education issues). I’d be equally delighted though if someone else takes the idea forward and does something interesting.

Update: I can’t make the developer conference any more, but I’m still keen on this idea, and may submit it to 4iP to see if they’ll fund me a bit of time to work on it. I’ve also collected a bit more data (including from Keir Clarke, who left a comment below with a link to his map containing London’s blue plaques from A to C). Am still waiting for official data from English Heritage, via either my FOI request or a couple of inside sources…

Update 2: I’ve just found some more data on blue plaques in Loughton… My favorite: “Marine William Sparks DSM (1922-2002) ‘Cockleshell Hero’ Bordeaux 1942 was born here”. Cockleshell hero?

Comments

  1. Mia said:

    I’m only a tiny bit obsessed with the idea of taking museum content outside the walls. I’d love to play around with ideas, or get comments on various things. I’ve relabelled a few posts from over the years as outside the walls of the museum. There are never enough hours in the day but I’ve been playing with ideas around geo-tagged content and physical world hyperlinks afterhours at modernbluestocking.ning.com.

  2. Lee said:

    Hi Frankie, what a great idea. On the history of blue plaques, I understood that it all started in Nottingham. I might be wrong about that, but there is an excellent paper on it if you can get hold of it by Stuart Burch, the exact ref. is BURCH, S., 2001. The Holbrook bequest for commemorative plaques: tradition, narrative and ‘local patriotism’ in Victorian Nottingham. Transactions of the Thoroton Society of Nottinghamshire. vol 105, pp. 155-170. Apart from anything else, it’s an excellent meditation on the ideology of commemoration – well worth a read!

  3. Owen Stephens said:

    I don’t see why it wouldn’t be a relevant topic for HE – history/culture in action and in the field.

    I saw Robin Hunt from CIBER talk about (among other things) his Betwixt Europe project yesterday http://betwixteurope.blogspot.com/ and I can see some cross over – see his entry on Emma Hamilton, and the related plaque at http://betwixteurope.blogspot.com/2007/05/those-hamilton-women.html

  4. Hi Lee – thanks for the bibliography, I’ll have to track some of those down. Do you know of any resources about Nottingham’s plaques online?

  5. Lee said:

    Frankie, I found the paper on Google Scholar: http://tinyurl.com/bkqfk8. I was wrong about the practise originating in Nottingham. Burch says: “…since 1867, the Royal Society of Arts had been placing Minton tablets on to former London homes of famous individuals. Although the scheme lasted for thirty-three years only thirty-six were erected. It was taken up more enthusiastically by the London County Council, which later adopted the form of the ‘blue plaques’. Eventually 331 tablets were put up over a sixty-five year period. The first plaque in 1867 marked the birthplace of Lord Byron at Holles Street, Westminster.”

  6. Ed said:

    Have you heard of/heard http://www.andwhilelondonburns.com/ ? Really interesting use of the audio walks concept, and very well put together. Shame it’s fairly trite anti-capitalist polemic.

  7. @Lee that sounds more aligned to the history on the English Heritage site: http://www.english-heritage.org.uk/server/show/nav.1495

    I’m interested in what Nottingham did though – did they run their own scheme? Manchester seems to have run a multi-coloured plaque scheme, but I can’t find any official information on it – I presume it’s no longer running.

  8. Terence Eden said:

    QR Codes or similar could work very well here.
    Under each plaque put a QR code which points to, say, blueplaque.mobi/?site=123

    All you do is point your phone at the code, it initiates your phone’s browser and, hey presto, you’re looking at a site with more info, links to a PodCast etc.

    T

  9. Matt Edgar said:

    Hi,

    I’d love to see blue plaques enabled with QR codes.

    The easiest route would be to use Semapedia.org which gives you a ready-made link to a mobile page for any Wikipedia entry, but no doubt one could also do something more sophisticated and bespoke.

    One potential obstacle is that while the plaques are maintained by local councils and civic societiess (I live in Leeds where it’s the Civic Trust) the buildings themselves are not, so to do it properly we’d need to seek permission from each property owner.

    Well worth doing, though, maybe as an off-shoot from Heritage Open Days in September?

    Regards,
    Matt

  10. Keir Clarke said:

    The blue plaque map looks a little bare. I started a Google My Map and got as far as C in the alphabet before I gave up. It still has a lot more markers. You could extract the data if you wanted by exporting the kml of the map.

    http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=106318970231915561670.00000112aff2248ed9457&ll=51.475396,-0.182648&spn=0.382341,0.884399&t=h&z=10

  11. @Terence/Matt: I don’t think QR codes would work here. As well as the hassle of physically applying them, plaques are sometimes mounted in awkward positions (such as high up a wall), and you need to be fairly close for a camera to be able to read a 2d barcode.

    @Keir nice work! Thanks for the offer – I’ll try and combine your data with other sources to get the best coverage possible.

  12. jim said:

    the state of pennsylvania has a nice DB with geocoords.

    http://www.portal.state.pa.us/portal/server.pt?open=512&objID=2539&&PageID=300886&level=3&css=L3&mode=2&in_hi_userid=2&cached=true

    very interesting idea. looking at gpsmission.app for the iphone might server some inspiration. i have a few ideas on the backburner with the concept.

  13. @jim Nice. Don’t think I’m quite ready to look at data from outside the UK though.

    Will look into the GPS Mission app…

  14. Kim said:

    Hey

    Zelda Rhiando used to keep a site full of Blue Plaque info – she may well still have all the data… http://www.badzelda.com/

    Also, bet your bottom dollar that Yoz Grahame still has all the handheld history files somewhere… http://www.yoz.com/

  15. Jez Nicholson said:

    Hi Frankie,

    Is it you who is the source of the openplaque:id Flickr tags? I’m toying with using blue plaque data during Yahoo OpenHack next weekend which is why i’ve been adding Brighton & Hove plaques (I’m J’Roo on Flickr). I have a strong interest in OpenStreetMap and open data formats.

    Perhaps the data can end up as full machine tags, e.g. openplaques:subject=”Sir Winston Churchill”, openplaques:profession=”Prime Minister”, openplaques:lifespan=”1874-1965″, openplaques:action=”Was educated here at The Misses Thompson’s Preparatory School”, openplaques:actionspan=”1883-1885″, etc. ? which could make it live longer than any blueplaque web site or database.

    Regards,
    Jez

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  18. David Coughlan said:

    Will you have a look at my Blue Plaque Google Map and Street view web page and give me some feedback please. You can view it here..

    http://www.davidcoughlan.net/CV/ListSearch/BluePlaqueSearch.aspx

    Many thanks and kind regards,
    Dave Coughlan

  19. Roy Reed said:

    I’ve produced a Google Earth KMZ of all the EH Blue Plaques. You can find more info here: http://reeddesign.co.uk/wordpress/2009/12/01/blue-plaques-on-google-earth/

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